Always Historicize? (A Tale of Today, Episode #4)


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From Fredric Jameson on why “the most important goal is history itself” follows a series of conversations about dialectical criticism vs. new historicism [5:00], the wisdom of “always historicizing” [17:30], the anxiety of influence between new historicism and literary fiction [34:00] as well as between literary fiction and history [53:00], hinge points and shadow presentisms [59:00], and the layers of discourse about history in 2024 [88:30].

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Cast (in order of appearance):

Eleanor Courtemanche is Associate Professor of English at University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign and the author of “Beyond Urgency” (2019)

Jeffrey Insko is Professor of English & American Studies at Oakland University and the author of History, Abolition, & The Ever-Present Now in Antebellum American Writing (Oxford UP, 2019)

Anna Kornbluh is Professor of English at University of Illinois, Chicago and the author of Immediacy, or The Style of Too Late Capitalism (Verso, 2024)

Robert T. Tally Jr. is Professor of English at Texas State University and the author of For A Ruthless Critique of All That Exists (Zer0, 2022) and “On Always Historicizing” (2022)

Alexander Manshel is Associate Professor of English at McGill University and the author of Writing Backwards (Columbia UP, 2023).

Walter Johnson is Winthrop Professor of History and Professor of African & African American Studies at Harvard University. He is the author of, among other things, The Broken Heart of America (Basic, 2020), River of Dark Dreams (Harvard UP, 2013) and “On Agency” (2003).

Matt Seybold is Associate Professor of American Literature & Mark Twain Studies at Elmira College, as well as resident scholar at the Center For Mark Twain Studies and executive producer of The American Vandal Podcast.


Soundtrack:

All music for this season of The American Vandal Podcast comes from the Tennessee-based roots ensemble DownRiver Collective. Most of the tracks come from their most recent EP, Off The Shelf. You can purchase it direct from the band here. It’s also available on Spotify and Apple Music.

Tracks featured in this episode include “Daylight Breaks,” “As It Was,” “Wasted Time,” and “Walls.”


Narration:

Excerpts from Mark Twain and Charles Dudley Warner’s The Gilded Age come from the audiobook edition produced by SNR Audio and narrated by Nathan Osgood. Available at Audible, as well as other audiobook retailers. SNR has an extensive catalog of professionally-narrated adaptations of 19th-century Anglophone fiction, including The Complete Mark Twain Collection.

Nathan Osgood is an actor and voice artist who has being appearing in films, scripted television, video games, podcasts, and audiobooks since the mid-’90s. In 2018, he played Mark Twain in the Will Ferrell and John C. Reilly vehicle, Holmes and Watson.

Excerpts in this episode come from chapters eighteen and fifty-eight.


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